Ars technica system guide july 2013 – ars technica openforum anoxic anoxia

HTPC, ultra-budget box, ect… Are usually published as a septate guide on an alternating basis with the main guide. Look for them in a september/october timeframe, if past history is anything to go on.

Apologies but I did a quick look but couldn’t seem to find those articles.

The last build that mentioned HTPC was february 2013 and the one before that was december 2012.

In both cases they appeared to recommend non-HTPC like cases (eg. The antec NSK4482 or VSK-3000) and there didn’t seem to be any consideration for power usage, noise levels, bluray support, SSD+HDD combos and form factors for sticking under the television.


Also nothing about what the best and cheapest CPU is for decoding 1080p (ie.Anoxic anoxia do you really need a core i5? Or a core i3? Does HD4000 matter over HD2500? Hell, what about a cheap AMD?), motherboards with 5.1 or 7.1 surround sound built in and cases that can support DVB-T2, ATSC or clearqam internal cards. To be fair, they’d fit just fine in the recommended cases but that’s because the cases are pretty big!

If that sort of stuff could go into a dedicated HTPC guide, that would be awesome. This one from lifehacker is a good start, but I’m sure ars could do better.

The god box has several improvements that could be made.

The dell monitors are nice but we’re on the verge of 4K. I would have thrown in a reference to the new asus 4K display as well as seiki 39 4K HDTV for those just wanting raw resolution.Anoxic anoxia if 4K wasn’t a viable option, I’d have gone with three dell S2740L for surround/eyefinity gaming.

I’d have personally gone with the new corsair carbide air 540. It is roomy, accepts EATX motherboards, plenty of water cooling setups and surprisingly takes up less volume than many full towers.

Speaking of water cooling, I feel that omitting closed loop water cooling solutions was a serious omission. The article mentions space considerations for choosing coolers on a dual socket 2011 motherboard (which is damn good advice going in this direction) but closed loop liquid coolers have no immediate clearance issues. The limitations are mounting the radiators which with a cased like the corsair I mention above can easily mount two 240 mm long radiators without issue.Anoxic anoxia

Going with eight sticks of 16 GB registered ECC memory is the way to go for the god box. I picked up similar memory for a bit less earlier this year. Saving $30 per DIMM adds up quickly when you’re buying eight of them.

And some potential typos:

Two xeons… I can see that in a server but this, this is crazy.

Imagine all the LTC/BTC you could mine with that.

The xeons would not matter beyond 10% at best on either LTC or BTC.

[BTC hash speeds pulled from https://en.Bitcoin.It/wiki/mining_hardware_comparison]

BTC uses SHA 256 as its hashing algorithm, which allows for massive increases over CPU calculating if you calculate on a GPU.

Assuming the GB was built with 2 7990s: 1.2 GH/s

Assuming the E5-2687W that the GB is using would have the same hash rate as the E5-2690, the two xeon chips would get 70 MH/s.Anoxic anoxia

I doubt the extra .07 GH/s added by the xeons would help much, especially considering how competitive BTC mining has become.

Litecoin, using scrypt instead of SHA 256, runs more slowly on gpus and cpus.

[http://web.Archive.Org/web/20130718171337/http://litecoin.Info/mining_hardware_comparison]

Same GPU assumption as before:

7990s: 2000 KH/s.

I could not find info on either e5s mentioned earlier, but I found numbers for the E3-1230.

Assuming 2x performance for the xeon

Xeons: 200 KH/s.

For litecoin, I would suspect that using both the xeons and the titans/7990s would bring a relatively large performance increase, but cooling might become an issue.

I’m considering a asus Z87-plus. Does anyone out there own one and can comment?Anoxic anoxia

I happened to see a fractal design R4 last week and it’s a full size tower and it’s HUGE. That’s great if you need all that space, but considering that the asus board is just microatx it seems like a bit of a waste and a bit of a pain.

The corsair 330R recently announced looks good on paper but unfortunately it’s not available yet, at least in my country. Correction: I just googled a review and apparently it’s expensive for what you get (when it does eventually arrive here) , but I like the looks and size.

Got an asus, unboxed since I’m still waiting for the damn nanoxia deep silence 1 to appear ANYWHERE on the internet. It seems that I found a couple at quietpc.Com at UK. To be honest, I wanted to get the deluxe $ 289 but the price seemed high and 802.11ac wasn’t of my need.Anoxic anoxia the fact that from the z87 expert $ 239 having 1 thunderbolt port to a removed one on the deluxe is stupid, then back to 2 ports on the deluxe dual, I despise removal of feature while scaling the models upwards. Later after some research, why would I want thunderbolt? What accessory would I get with thunderbolt? After ars techica’s post on thunderbolt, I’m glad I did not get the expert board and settled with the plus, THOUGH I did not want any of the DVI and VGA ports to be there to be honest, a single HDMI or displayport would of been nice, something the deluxe $289 embraced. But hey, even the plus has a thunderbolt header IF it need be, 802.11n, ac for me is overkill and for mobile devices, n is sufficiently fast, if not I’d go gigabit wire, and it’s an asus with excellent BIOS, which made my final decision over the asrock extreme 6 which was looking really good, dual intel NIC, esata and great looking colors, unlike the less liked gold.Anoxic anoxia

I think the god box is a waste of time to even write about. Who the hell actually cares? Make a reasonable budget of like 3-3.5 tops.

Not to mention none of these were actually built or benchmarked.

The god box might even perform worse than the hot rod in games due to using CPU with a much older architecture in a variant designed for servers. It is getting more silly than usual. If anything add in a workstation variant if you need to have three types that would spice things up compared to the two gaming oriented builds.

That’s pretty unlikely, the EP variants aren’t all that different (the 6 core SB-es are just binned EP parts for example) – it’s really just an 8 core sandy bridge with some more cache and weaker clocks.Anoxic anoxia if the CPU is a bottleneck yeah, it’ll be somewhat slower than a haswell i5 in lightly threaded games but games are more often GPU limited than CPU and dual titans vs a 760 is somewhat decisive.

Not that you’d ever build anything like this for gaming though, you could beat it at a fraction of the cost. This is like someone stuck a couple gaming cards in a database server and ripped out the storage array or something, really bizarre build.